[simbench]

据不可靠消息：
鉴于国内目前出现了自主招生的“华约”和“北约”，居然没有石油院校，国内的石油院校纷纷表示不服，也组织了自主招生联盟，美其名曰“油大”。

[ytlee]

What kind of accredit system is used in China?

No wonder many US professors don't give a damn to Chinese students.

[zhangxuewei]

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-28-2010 - 11:59）

What kind of accredit system is used in China?

No wonder many US professors don't give a damn to Chinese students.

How many US professors you know?

How many US professors outside the oil and gas industrial you know?

In US, the number of Ph.D. students from what countries make up the majortiy of international Ph.D. student group? Nothing about China?

How many Chinese students you know?

How many Chinese students outside the oil and gas industry you know?

How many Chinese students you don't know?

How much you know about Chinese educational system?

How much you don't know about Chinese educational system?

Please don't be judgemental before you really know much; plese don't see only the negative aspects of Chinese students and Chinese education system.

I think what said by simbench is just a cold joke.

[ytlee]

I can't tell you "how many" without my little black book.

But I can tell you one that I soon will know.

I can't tell you how many chinese students I know because 99.99999% I only talked to them only once when I was touring the country. However I'm sure I got to know less than 0.000000000001% of all college students.

BTW, it is not "how many" that you should concern. All it needs is ONE.

http://jmd.sagepub.c...6/1/89.abstract

and if you don't think the type of behaviour affect you, think again

http://www.slideshar...ork-environment

[simbench]

引用框（zhangxuewei ＠ 11-29-2010 - 01:40）

I think what said by simbench is just a cold joke.

呵呵，我只是想讲一个cold joke

[hejie]

引用框（zhangxuewei ＠ 11-29-2010 - 01:40）

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-28-2010 - 11:59）

What kind of accredit system is used in China?

No wonder many US professors don't give a damn to Chinese students.

How many US professors you know?

How many US professors outside the oil and gas industrial you know?

In US, the number of Ph.D. students from what countries make up the majortiy of international Ph.D. student group? Nothing about China?

How many Chinese students you know?

How many Chinese students outside the oil and gas industry you know?

How many Chinese students you don't know?

How much you know about Chinese educational system?

How much you don't know about Chinese educational system?

Please don't be judgemental before you really know much; plese don't see only the negative aspects of Chinese students and Chinese education system.

I think what said by simbench is just a cold joke.

The majority of international students in the U.S. consists of Chinese and Indians (perhaps also Europeans and Africans). However, in Ph.D. programs, there are generally more Indians than Chinese, while in the master's and undergraduate programs, far more Chinese.

From some aspect, American professors more or less prefer the Indians, however little you may argue the preferrence is, and overall, the Indian students are doing, with all due respect, better than us Chinese.

Moreover, it is a fact that the quality of the education in China is far from that in the U.S. The compulsory education there covers senior high school. They also have better college and upper level education, and no wonder many wealthy Chinese choose to send their children to the U.S.

You have to face the real world, bud. Ytlee is just telling the truth, and you needn't be so offensive at these questions.

[zhangxuewei]

引用框（hejie ＠ 03-19-2011 - 02:54）

引用框（zhangxuewei ＠ 11-29-2010 - 01:40）

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-28-2010 - 11:59）

What kind of accredit system is used in China?

No wonder many US professors don't give a damn to Chinese students.

How many US professors you know?

How many US professors outside the oil and gas industrial you know?

In US, the number of Ph.D. students from what countries make up the majortiy of international Ph.D. student group? Nothing about China?

How many Chinese students you know?

How many Chinese students outside the oil and gas industry you know?

How many Chinese students you don't know?

How much you know about Chinese educational system?

How much you don't know about Chinese educational system?

Please don't be judgemental before you really know much; plese don't see only the negative aspects of Chinese students and Chinese education system.

I think what said by simbench is just a cold joke.

The majority of international students in the U.S. consists of Chinese and Indians (perhaps also Europeans and Africans). However, in Ph.D. programs, there are generally more Indians than Chinese, while in the master's and undergraduate programs, far more Chinese.

From some aspect, American professors more or less prefer the Indians, however little you may argue the preferrence is, and overall, the Indian students are doing, with all due respect, better than us Chinese.

Moreover, it is a fact that the quality of the education in China is far from that in the U.S. The compulsory education there covers senior high school. They also have better college and upper level education, and no wonder many wealthy Chinese choose to send their children to the U.S.

You have to face the real world, bud. Ytlee is just telling the truth, and you needn't be so offensive at these questions.

什么叫truth?个体理解的truth也许对个体是"truth"，就像你理解的中美教育差距，和我的中美教育个人经历以及个人理解就很不同。我没说我的理解的一定是truth，同样你和ytlee的看法相似也不一定就准确客观。我只是问了一系列的问题，因为在客观充分了解这些问题之前，个体的理解是主观的。就像你主观臆断我be offensive，没什么来由，因此我不接受。

你心中的real world 对你是real的，但和我无关，我不觉得中美间前博士或者前研究生教育有多大差距，各有优劣。不想在重负讨论，留学版相关主题已经很多人讨论过了。

[海阔星空]

还有同盟啊 :support:

[akabc47]

引用框（hejie ＠ 03-19-2011 - 14:54）

引用框（zhangxuewei ＠ 11-29-2010 - 01:40）

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-28-2010 - 11:59）

What kind of accredit system is used in China?

No wonder many US professors don't give a damn to Chinese students.

How many US professors you know?

How many US professors outside the oil and gas industrial you know?

In US, the number of Ph.D. students from what countries make up the majortiy of international Ph.D. student group? Nothing about China?

How many Chinese students you know?

How many Chinese students outside the oil and gas industry you know?

How many Chinese students you don't know?

How much you know about Chinese educational system?

How much you don't know about Chinese educational system?

Please don't be judgemental before you really know much; plese don't see only the negative aspects of Chinese students and Chinese education system.

I think what said by simbench is just a cold joke.

The majority of international students in the U.S. consists of Chinese and Indians (perhaps also Europeans and Africans). However, in Ph.D. programs, there are generally more Indians than Chinese, while in the master's and undergraduate programs, far more Chinese.

From some aspect, American professors more or less prefer the Indians, however little you may argue the preferrence is, and overall, the Indian students are doing, with all due respect, better than us Chinese.

Moreover, it is a fact that the quality of the education in China is far from that in the U.S. The compulsory education there covers senior high school. They also have better college and upper level education, and no wonder many wealthy Chinese choose to send their children to the U.S.

You have to face the real world, bud. Ytlee is just telling the truth, and you needn't be so offensive at these questions.

I disagree. I don't think Indians are doing any better than Chinese students, at least from what I have seen.

The wealthy kids are losers. They couldn't afford to compete with other hard working students. They are just running away from the competition. US education (except higher education) is disaster. Read the latest TIMES magazine.

[akabc47]

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-29-2010 - 00:59）

What kind of accredit system is used in China?

No wonder many US professors don't give a damn to Chinese students.

My adviser said I am one of two most clever students he ever had (he is 65 now and had 20+ graduate students; never had Chinese students before me). He also said he thinks Chinese and Jewish people are the two most clever people in the world. I don't think I am exceptional among Chinese students. In fact, a lot of professors I know just couldn't stop recruiting Chinese students because they are doing such a great job!

Don't make a fool of yourself.

[ytlee]

引用框（akabc47 ＠ 11-11-2011 - 10:14）

Don't make a fool of yourself.

Hehe, I hope you are correct. Don't be surprised, at the end of the day, the fool is the one in front of your mirrow.


As for me, I have the freedom to select who can work with me.

[akabc47]

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-13-2011 - 04:50）

引用框（akabc47 ＠ 11-11-2011 - 10:14）

Don't make a fool of yourself.

Hehe, I hope you are correct. Don't be surprised, at the end of the day, the fool is the one in front of your mirrow.


As for me, I have the freedom to select who can work with me.

Ha, who do you think you are? How do you know one day you are going to beg a Chinese student to give you a job? I hope that day you will still remember what you said now.

[ytlee]

引用框（akabc47 ＠ 11-12-2011 - 15:24）

Ha, who do you think you are? How do you know one day you are going to beg a Chinese student to give you a job? I hope that day you will still remember what you said now.

Whom am I, if you don't know me, you don't need to know. Frankly, until I'm 6' under, i believe i'm still evolving.


I changed jobs and careers at least dozen times and I have yet to beg for a job. Will I beg for job in the future? I haven't done that all my life, I doubt that I'll do thing differently. So don't hold your breath.

[近海结构]

who is he? 他是个洋奴，汉奸，台独分子，说的话真真假假，故意搅浑论坛，误导青年，

引用框（akabc47 ＠ 11-13-2011 - 05:24）

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-13-2011 - 04:50）

引用框（akabc47 ＠ 11-11-2011 - 10:14）

Don't make a fool of yourself.

Hehe, I hope you are correct. Don't be surprised, at the end of the day, the fool is the one in front of your mirrow.


As for me, I have the freedom to select who can work with me.

Ha, who do you think you are? How do you know one day you are going to beg a Chinese student to give you a job? I hope that day you will still remember what you said now.

[ytlee]

Who is ytlee, you can google ytlee, you will get at least 580,000 hits. you can do the same as 近海结构 did, mixed me up with the good guy from Taiwan or the nice guy from Korea. Anyway to save his and other from the trouble.

here is my brief bio.

I spent my childhood in mainland china, went to hong kong when I was a teenage then came to US for my education. I went to TAMU for my BSChe and MS from Rice. I started in oil & gas career as pipeline engineer in the 70s, as offshore manager in early 80s. got fired in the 80 crash. started over and worked my way back, then the 90s crash came, when the oil company closed the door, I started my software/firmware company developing software and hardware for oil&gas industry. Other than love finding black gold, electronic and computer programming are my passions. When the 2k boom, I accepted a position from conocophillips, when my CO2 seq/EOR project was delayed, I left CoP and work for a NOC as modeller and simulation staff member for a deepwater project. If haven't working for china qualifies me as 洋奴,so be it. At least I don't steal like 近海结构 so proud of. As for 汉奸，台独分子, I have to question 近海结构 mental stage. then again, how can you rebutal a thief?

[近海结构]

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-16-2011 - 10:02）

Who is ytlee, you can google ytlee, you will get at least 580,000 hits. you can do the same as 近海结构 did, mixed me up with the good guy from Taiwan or the nice guy from Korea. Anyway to save his and other from the trouble.

here is my brief bio.

I spent my childhood in mainland china, went to hong kong when I was a teenage then came to US for my education. I went to TAMU for my BSChe and MS from Rice. I started in oil & gas career as pipeline engineer in the 70s, as offshore manager in early 80s. got fired in the 80 crash. started over and worked my way back, then the 90s crash came, when the oil company closed the door, I started my software/firmware company developing software and hardware for oil&gas industry. Other than love finding black gold, electronic and computer programming are my passions. When the 2k boom, I accepted a position from conocophillips, when my CO2 seq/EOR project was delayed, I left CoP and work for a NOC as modeller and simulation staff member for a deepwater project. If haven't working for china qualifies me as 洋奴,so be it. At least I don't steal like 近海结构 so proud of. As for 汉奸，台独分子, I have to question 近海结构 mental stage. then again, how can you rebutal a thief?

你这条疯狗为什么盯着我咬？你如果不咬人，我懒得理你这种货色. You have brain damage，
你说说我偷什么了？就是跟别人帖子说我买不到书？你这种张嘴放屁的行为是你的习惯，还是突然犯病？

[roc999]

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-28-2010 - 10:59）

What kind of accredit system is used in China?

No wonder many US professors don't give a damn to Chinese students.

美国对于中国的偏见是显而易见的。
大家能在美国混都是因为老美自己没有足够的人来做这些工程科学方面的工作。 绝不是因为老美喜欢中国人。
中美对抗将是未来二十年世界的主旋律，不要指望美国人能够对我们有什么好脸色。美国就是一个赚钱发财的地方，没钱赚的时候大家就拍屁股走人。

[akabc47]

引用框（roc999 ＠ 11-17-2011 - 06:59）

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-28-2010 - 10:59）

What kind of accredit system is used in China?

No wonder many US professors don't give a damn to Chinese students.

美国对于中国的偏见是显而易见的。
大家能在美国混都是因为老美自己没有足够的人来做这些工程科学方面的工作。 绝不是因为老美喜欢中国人。
中美对抗将是未来二十年世界的主旋律，不要指望美国人能够对我们有什么好脸色。美国就是一个赚钱发财的地方，没钱赚的时候大家就拍屁股走人。

I don't think so. America is a free land where whoever is capable of discovering something or make a fortune has the right to stay. Americans now are just earlier immigrants. So it doesn't matter whether you come from China or not to settle on this land. Americans prejudice against China is rooted in ideology mostly. Besides that, I don't see any reason why US and China should compete rather than cooperate.

For Chinese students, as long as we do a good job, the prejudice will go away. However, I find it really disgusting that some Chinese people (maybe they don't think they are Chinese anymore) look down upon their own people, like the comment you quoted.

[ytlee]

American universities depends on their alumni for funding. Unfortunately chinese alumni are not known for quick for reaching out with the checkbook. So you can blame the professors & adminstrators overlook the chinese prospective  students.

[zhangxuewei]

引用框（ytlee ＠ 11-17-2011 - 19:28）

the professors & adminstrators overlook the chinese prospective  students.

It does not make any sense to me, not at all.